After reaching level 20... - Guild Wars Forums

Celdor Nailo · Nov 14, 2005, 06:43 PM // 18:43

... experience points do nothing for you, right? You don't gain levels and you don't gain attribute points to spend so I no longer bother with mission bonuses.

Besides the fun of doing the bonuses, am I right in saying that more experience does nothing for me? Am I at a point where I will never be able to raise an attribute again, unless I lower another?

Yichi · Nov 14, 2005, 06:45 PM // 18:45

you gain skill points that you can use to unlock/purchase skills for your character or buy cap signets to capture elite skills.

Batou of Nine · Nov 14, 2005, 06:46 PM // 18:46

You still can gain XP, except instead of increasing levels, you gain a skill point each time your xp bar fills up. Skill points are used as the name implies, to purchase new skills. 1 point per puirchased skill.

yes, once you reach 20 you get no other attribute points, OTHER than the two 15 point attribute quests. Two quests that each give xp and 15 attribute points, one starts in Augury Rock, the other in Droknars Forge...

enjoy...

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 14, 2005, 06:49 PM // 18:49

those 30 extra atts in two quests brings you to 200, max. So right now, all you can do is "farm exp" for skillpoints if you need sigs of cap to go get all your elite skills. also, ascend, and complete the game. There's still plenty to do after ascending and hitting 20. Namely, the mursaat come to mind ^_^ funny little creatures.

But yeah, Cap elites, farm exp for skill points if you need it, if not, start levelling a new char, or try your hand at PVP/Tombs

--The Shim

Celdor Nailo · Nov 14, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55

I should have mentioned that I reached level 20 weeks ago and am ascended. I just finished the mission after thunderhead keep.

I forgot about the skill points that are gained. Do you receive skill points for bonuses?

Pevil Lihatuh · Nov 14, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

you do if the 1000xp takes you up to the 'next' level.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 14, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Wrong. Bonus is always a skill point. It doesn't have to level you. Same with mission. Mission+bonus = 2 solid skill points.

Xa Panda · Nov 14, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59

well I make a lvl 20 in 5 hours then I do the 15 point attribute quest and I do some other stuff like get the best weapons... runes and die armor...

then I make a new character

I also have some UW chars and some Runners etc...

Align · Nov 14, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03

I'm not sure what you're trying to say - that you can play for that long without getting bored out of your mind or that you can farm as well as thousands of other people in order to get runes and dyes?

J1000 · Nov 14, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celdor Nailo

... experience points do nothing for you, right? You don't gain levels and you don't gain attribute points to spend so I no longer bother with mission bonuses.

Besides the fun of doing the bonuses, am I right in saying that more experience does nothing for me? Am I at a point where I will never be able to raise an attribute again, unless I lower another?

As has been said, you now earn skill points. That may not seem like a big deal at the moment, but wait until you have finished all the secondary profession quests. At that point you'll be able to experiment with far more builds based around all the different secondary professions (you can change them at will) and you will be using up those skill points quickly. Experimenting with new builds has been every bit as fun, to me, as playing through the game the first time.

I also assume that if aNet decides to increase the maximum value for characters our accumulated experience points will definitely apply. The reason I think this is because a while back they made a change to the amount of experience needed for a new skill point, and suddenly a lot of people had new skill points awarded to them retroactively. So until you hear otherwise, there's a good chance experience being accumulated today will result in a higher character level later.

Arturo02 · Nov 14, 2005, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

Wrong. Bonus is always a skill point. It doesn't have to level you. Same with mission. Mission+bonus = 2 solid skill points.

hehe actually it is you who are wrong. You get the skill point from doing the mission.

Arturo02 · Nov 14, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

forgot to add to the op, between the elite skills and the ones you have no cnoice but to buy, you will need somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-40 extra skill points over what you can get via missions and leveling to 20 to completely unlock all your skills.

Once you are level 20, then every 15k xp after that is another skill point. And, there are some extra quests at the end of the game that are huge xp as well as Underworld, another pve area with big xp quests. Sorrows Furnace another spot.

It will seem a daunting task thinking about how you will get the gold and the skill points to unlock all your skills. But don't think about it, just do it. And the good thing is there will be a lot of skills that you won't really use much or are worthless, so you can get them later. And if you are into pvp, you can also unlock skills through earning faction from pvp play. Only drawback is unlocked stuff via faction is only avail for your pvp only chars.

Hope this helps

ne33us · Nov 18, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Level DO increase beyond level 20.
We, the players, just do not see that.
Why ?? Well IMO, who cares...

Does a player at virtual (how else should i call it) level 30 has any advantage
over another player at virtual (once again) level 21 ?
I do not thing so, and i do not have any facts to base it on.

How do i know, that PLAYERS level greater than level 20 do exists ??

Simple, but rare, i had an opportunity to screen grab a game glitch that showed us the actual level of a player.

The situation.
While in a mission, two party members disconnected / left
Our party window showed one of them Level 24.
Take a look at the attachment picture

No, this isn't a fake picture, i'm not that lame

How do i validate that picture as authentic ??
I really do not know how, but if anyone knows a way, i'm willing
to put my scren grab to the test

Alone) · Nov 18, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55

That's a glitch that sometimes happens when somone is lagging in, or has left the party. There are situations as well when there is no level at all.

ne33us · Nov 18, 2005, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Well, i do not think that the game (or server) just accidently
had chosen lvl 24 for that player.
I prefer to believe that the game (or server) 'glitched'
into showing us the players real level

Arturo02 · Nov 18, 2005, 07:05 PM // 19:05

I think your tin foil hat is a little crooked

neoteo · Nov 18, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06

here is a thread about the same

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=81418

ne33us · Nov 18, 2005, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturo02

I think your tin foil hat is a little crooked

what's that supposed to mean ??

ne33us · Nov 18, 2005, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoteo

here is a thread about the same

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=81418

That's another point of view of the Level 20 barrier

Well starting GW I knew there was a lvl 20 cap on the game, so in
my own lameness i got out of Ascalon with lvl 14 doing a lot of charr hunting...
over the wall... in hope that i would be a tought guy going to the "Ruined" Ascalon.
But the game is not about leveling up

That i understood later.

Loviatar · Nov 18, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ne33us

Well, i do not think that the game (or server) just accidently
had chosen lvl 24 for that player.
I prefer to believe that the game (or server) 'glitched'
into showing us the players real level

and the key part there is you prefer to believe.

double the tinfoil around the edges to keep it from slipping again

Nov 14, 2005, 06:43 PM // 18:43	#1
Celdor Nailo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/E	After reaching level 20... ... experience points do nothing for you, right? You don't gain levels and you don't gain attribute points to spend so I no longer bother with mission bonuses. Besides the fun of doing the bonuses, am I right in saying that more experience does nothing for me? Am I at a point where I will never be able to raise an attribute again, unless I lower another?

Nov 18, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51	#13
ne33us Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Athens, Greece	After reaching lvl20....levels still do increase !!!! Level DO increase beyond level 20. We, the players, just do not see that. Why ?? Well IMO, who cares... Does a player at virtual (how else should i call it) level 30 has any advantage over another player at virtual (once again) level 21 ? I do not thing so, and i do not have any facts to base it on. How do i know, that PLAYERS level greater than level 20 do exists ?? Simple, but rare, i had an opportunity to screen grab a game glitch that showed us the actual level of a player. The situation. While in a mission, two party members disconnected / left Our party window showed one of them Level 24. Take a look at the attachment picture No, this isn't a fake picture, i'm not that lame How do i validate that picture as authentic ?? I really do not know how, but if anyone knows a way, i'm willing to put my scren grab to the test Last edited by ne33us; Aug 25, 2009 at 02:27 PM // 14:27..

Nov 14, 2005, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#2
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	you gain skill points that you can use to unlock/purchase skills for your character or buy cap signets to capture elite skills.

Nov 14, 2005, 06:46 PM // 18:46	#3
Batou of Nine Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: California, USA Guild: Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T") Profession: Mo/E	You still can gain XP, except instead of increasing levels, you gain a skill point each time your xp bar fills up. Skill points are used as the name implies, to purchase new skills. 1 point per puirchased skill. yes, once you reach 20 you get no other attribute points, OTHER than the two 15 point attribute quests. Two quests that each give xp and 15 attribute points, one starts in Augury Rock, the other in Droknars Forge... enjoy...

Nov 14, 2005, 06:49 PM // 18:49	#4
Shimus DarkRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, PA <nowhere> Guild: KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer> Profession: W/Mo	those 30 extra atts in two quests brings you to 200, max. So right now, all you can do is "farm exp" for skillpoints if you need sigs of cap to go get all your elite skills. also, ascend, and complete the game. There's still plenty to do after ascending and hitting 20. Namely, the mursaat come to mind ^_^ funny little creatures. But yeah, Cap elites, farm exp for skill points if you need it, if not, start levelling a new char, or try your hand at PVP/Tombs --The Shim

Nov 14, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55	#5
Celdor Nailo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/E	I should have mentioned that I reached level 20 weeks ago and am ascended. I just finished the mission after thunderhead keep. I forgot about the skill points that are gained. Do you receive skill points for bonuses?

Nov 14, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#6
Pevil Lihatuh Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK Profession: R/Me	you do if the 1000xp takes you up to the 'next' level.

Nov 14, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59	#7
Shimus DarkRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, PA <nowhere> Guild: KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer> Profession: W/Mo	Wrong. Bonus is always a skill point. It doesn't have to level you. Same with mission. Mission+bonus = 2 solid skill points.

Nov 14, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59	#8
Xa Panda Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Underground Guild: KR	well I make a lvl 20 in 5 hours then I do the 15 point attribute quest and I do some other stuff like get the best weapons... runes and die armor... then I make a new character I also have some UW chars and some Runners etc...

Nov 14, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03	#9
Align Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Protectors of Awesome[AWE] Profession: W/	I'm not sure what you're trying to say - that you can play for that long without getting bored out of your mind or that you can farm as well as thousands of other people in order to get runes and dyes?

Nov 14, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49	#12
Arturo02 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: See that third planet from the sun? Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: R/Me	forgot to add to the op, between the elite skills and the ones you have no cnoice but to buy, you will need somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-40 extra skill points over what you can get via missions and leveling to 20 to completely unlock all your skills. Once you are level 20, then every 15k xp after that is another skill point. And, there are some extra quests at the end of the game that are huge xp as well as Underworld, another pve area with big xp quests. Sorrows Furnace another spot. It will seem a daunting task thinking about how you will get the gold and the skill points to unlock all your skills. But don't think about it, just do it. And the good thing is there will be a lot of skills that you won't really use much or are worthless, so you can get them later. And if you are into pvp, you can also unlock skills through earning faction from pvp play. Only drawback is unlocked stuff via faction is only avail for your pvp only chars. Hope this helps

Nov 18, 2005, 06:55 PM // 18:55	#14
Alone) Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Campbell, California Guild: Legio Imortalii Profession: W/Mo	That's a glitch that sometimes happens when somone is lagging in, or has left the party. There are situations as well when there is no level at all.

Nov 18, 2005, 07:02 PM // 19:02	#15
ne33us Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Athens, Greece	Well, i do not think that the game (or server) just accidently had chosen lvl 24 for that player. I prefer to believe that the game (or server) 'glitched' into showing us the players real level

Nov 18, 2005, 07:05 PM // 19:05	#16
Arturo02 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: See that third planet from the sun? Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: R/Me	I think your tin foil hat is a little crooked

Nov 18, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#17
neoteo Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Macau Guild: www.exilesofdarksteel.com Profession: E/	here is a thread about the same http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=81418